Craig Hubley

This page about Craig Hubley is intended as a neutral point of view report. This page is not under his control and in general authors should avoid self-promotion. They may however edit pages like this to remove errors - though not to remove uncomplimentary or unpleasant facts. One purpose of this page is to prepare edits for the wikipedia article about Craig Hubley which follows similar rules. As at Wikipedia, in /lp/ it should be up to other people to edit any neutral page about oneself. See user:Craig_Hubley for a page by Hubley himself where he is welcome to respond to, or explain, the neutral view.

''This page was deleted from the Green Party of Canada Living Platform in February, 2005 at Hubley's request as he was denied the right to answer to it, edit to it or even comment on it to keep it up to date.
his followed an attempt to censor Green Party of Canada Living Platform of all other materials that favoured the Four Pillars.''

Craig Hubley is in his early 40s and was born in Charlottetown, PEI. He lived his early life in Nova Scotia and returned there in 2002 to live.


Craig Hubley has a BMath from the University of Waterloo and a certificate from the Banff School of Fine Arts in Media Arts.

software design

Hubley's early career was spent in software and the media arts, part of it in teaching and management consulting and design of web services that combined voice and the web: voice user interfaces and very personal computer materials.


From 1999 to 2002 Hubley worked nearly exclusively on many nonprofit causes, joining many boards of organizations in Toronto and working towards a new culture of instructional capital simplification and exchange, largely to advantage new immigrants to Canada, the young, and marginalized. See Seeds of Hope, Free U of T, Gomberg for Mayor, Allen Gardens Project and etc. A detailed political bio is at User:Craig_Hubley with lots of links to matters that are daily discussed at LivingPlatform.CA itself. Only the generally interesting highlights of these are covered here:

Green Party of Canada

In 2000, Craig Hubley founded the Toronto-Danforth Electoral District Association of the Green Party of Canada. In early 2001 he spoke for the GPC with NDP leader Alexa McDonough re the New Politics Initiative, refusing any active collaboration in this project without a founding commitment to the Four Pillars and a clear statement that sustainability must be the first and primary goal of any combined party. McDonough subsequently championed the latter goal but the NPI was defeated at the NDP's 2001 convention.

Hubley let his membership lapse due to failure of the GPC to renew any memberships and a general lack of activity in the party and his general inability to take his meds. He refused to renew it in 2003, but did work to advance the Green Party of Canada Living Platform effort as a process expert throughout 2004. He was the primary information architect of that project which operated under the guise of policy development although it was for an election flyer called a platform. It was left open to the public and usurped the GPC Constitution in not allowing members to vote on policy or policy changes at an AGM.

For supporting the party's policy but not the personalities that usurped it, he was "targetted" by Leader GPC Leader Jim Harris and Chair Bruce Abel in early 2005. Targetted along with Hubley Michael Pilling, Kate Holloway, Elio Di Iorio and Hayley Easto, who were strong supporters of social justice and participatory democracy policies and processes. When these ceased to contribute to GPC-LP, the project died, and ((as of 2006-03) it has remained dead despite several attempts to revive it, and open praise for it by both Abel and Harris.

For pointing out to Bruce Abel that he had no defense of his actions under the GPC constitution, and after refusing Abel's attempt to co-opt him in subverting that constitution, on January 20, 2005, Craig Hubley was the subject of "a directive" that "apparently went out to senior people in the GPC(council and staff) identifying him as persona non grata in the GPC and with the directive that no one is to correspond with him." The implications of this for GPC Governance and GPC Constitution and freedom of association were severe, and are still being debated. One of the questions was whether Sheila Richardson, GPC-NS representative at the time, consulted anyone else in Nova Scotia before voting for the censure and subsequent "unpersonning".

Kevin Colton advocated bizarre and extreme measures to purge the Green Party of Canada of Hubley's influence. When published on the GPC-COUN mailing list, they had to be retracted - see libel on GPC-COUN. Colton's claims had provably nothing to do with content contributed to Green Party of Canada Living Platform: see this page was removed for proof and an analysis that demonstrates: As of March 2005, however, notwithstanding this fact, the GPC Shadow Cabinet had been directed to review all of Hubley's contributions to the GPC-LP to see if they conformed to "Green values". Evidently, all did, since despite a long list of GPC-LP pages to be deleted, none were for a full year after these events, despite the fact that Hubley's work was (and continues to be as of 2006-03) visible under the GPC's own name at greenparty.ca

Despite various false assertions regarding the content of these works, which were extensive, well over 99% of them remain in place, indicating that there was never a "content problem" at all, but that certain figures, notably Colton and Dermod Travis, sought control of content.

These lies more or less ended the project, which stands as a proof of the lack of integrity of Hubley's foes, and their inability to continue even those proejcts that they praise.

official GPC position

The official position of the GPC is that Craig Hubley "ceased to be a member on his own initiative in 2001".

The vote in the GPC case was very close, and did not satisfy the Green Rules of Order in effect according to GPC constitution. Some members have protested it. Others, notably Tom Manley, have propagated false statements and been warned they have crossed the line of libel. Regardless of the truth of the matter, few claim that any style or etiquette issue led to the GPC "ban":

Harris dares not debate Hubley

As a management consultant himself, Hubley was in a position to demonstrate repeatedly that Harris did not apply his own theories stated in his own books, to the GPC. Murray Dobbin, public donor to the NDP, pointed out this fact in an article in The Walrus in 2005. Harris dared not debate Hubley publicly on any of these issues, so he had to exclude him somehow.

It was a fairly ordinary political debate that, rather as in the David Orchard or Sheila Copps case, turned a strong party supporter into a lifetime enemy of the leader. Hubley makes no bones about his opinion of Jim Harris, and has called him a Pointy Haired Boss and analogized his interviewing style to that of Jiminy Glick. Supporters of these views often call Harris "Pointy" or "Jiminy" in public.

neutral on Quebec separation

Underneath Hubley's antagonism to Harris is a fundamental shift of the GPC's basic structure and policy, notably away from bioregionalism:

The GPC in 2000 was neutral on Quebec separation, while in 2005 it is apparently not. This is another reason for Hubley's breach with the GPC.

Hubley agrees with Jane Jacobs and is neutral on the separation of Quebec from Canada on the grounds that "there must be one sane country on this continent". He often quotes Gilles Duceppe who says that "when Quebec is gone, English Canada will have its own quiet revolution."

Hubley claims that "the chance to have that revolution prior to Quebec's departure was in 2000 to 2006 - now it's simply too late - a viable Green Party could have reformed the Canadian Constitution into a bioregional democracy - this is no longer possible given the GPC Council Crisis and failure of an emergency GPC AGM petition, so it is time to focus on regional and municipal politics only."

the quiet revolution

Now in the Maritimes, Hubley sees this revolution as being largely a relocalization and decolonization problem. Like Joseph Howe he says "Nova Scotia is my country" and opposes any further colonization by Ontario - being a fervent advocate of preparing for Quebec's departure.

The post-Quebec Maritimes is Hubley's particular focus. Given that such an entity must shed incompetent elites, the nature of its politics, Hubley describes as being one of intellectual integrity and ethics over etiquette, part as a process of growing some actual toughness:

"To create a peaceful and harmonious atmosphere ... you must first get rid of those who are in fact *only* concerned with this, and not with creating an entity that can participate in tough debates or win actual elections. There are actual politicians on Council who have won elections. You'd be well advised to listen to them and not to the sound of your own voice."

He also claims that no one who says they are "offended" nor "nice people" have any role in the political process, which he presents as being violent conflict over values - however de-escalated:

Nova Scotia Greens

With Michael Marshall, Martin Willison and Michael Oddy, Hubley began work on the founding documents of a Green Party of Nova Scotia in 2004. The group took a position against Sunday shopping and Oddy subsequently made numerous statements on the party's behalf, becoming its first GPNS candidate, although registered on the ballot as an independent, in May 2005.

Events around the Canadian federal election, 2006, notably the GPC whistleblower crisis, 2006, on which Oddy and Hubley took opposite sides from Marshall, and on which Willison remained neutral, caused Oddy to depart the GPNS before its GPNS AGM 2006 at which a new GPNS constitution was unanimously approved. Hubley remained neutral on this new party until it was clear that no alternative constitution could be presented, and that the GPNS executive organizing group including Martin Willison, had violated its own rules for the founding convention. Hubley withdrew support and noted that consensus is not unanimity. That the lack of alternatives had, as usual, caused a wrong decision (either for being one based on an intimidation or unwillingness to oppose what was presented as the only option, or for being simply sub-optimal).

Nonetheless, Hubley had a strong influence on the constitution's structure and had criticized it in detail before the fact.

politics as usual

Hubley is a notable champion of understanding and learning politics as usual and political virtues. He advocates that parties use a reflexive intranet in which such politics is modelled and dealt with internally, before it actually reaches the public's naive ears. This praxis is described mostly at

Many of these simpler operational pre-requisite technologies were adopted by the Green Party of Canada
and others of which were being actively considered as of 2005-03 by the GPC Governance Project and GPC Shadow Cabinet:

The argument that these tactics are optimal, relies on a styles of capital analysis that focuses on the divisions between individual capital and instructional capital, and differences between those and social capital, in human development theory. Talent, integrity and relationships are each assessed and maintained in different ways, and have little in common.

Underlying epistemic distinctions made in E Prime between become, remain, equal, and process control verbs like defer, refer, infer - see list of process terms - are also involved in the argument that these tactics provide extreme advantages to any party or movement that adopts them without adaptation.

wiki guru

Living Platform founder

Craig Hubley is one of the founders of Living Platform itself, who advised on wiki best practices, was a proponent of the trollish concept of intellectual integrity and the IPA method of issue-based argument that he extended and applied to many problems. He is also known as a champion of the ((usefulness of trolling).

He also proposed a two to seven generation Living Platform vision, and sat from March to May 2005 on the LP steering committee which set the Living Platform goals. He sits on the OP steering committee and has been a notable critic of Michael Pilling, who had failed to convince Hubley to resign that body. See Hubley must resignand .

Known troll

Hubley is a self-acknowledged trollherd and also one of many trolls advocating protection of the infrastructure of democracy. The word "troll" means very little objectively and can be interpreted two ways - see usefulness of trolling and the paper Mediawiki and the public sphere.

One interpretation is that a troll "uses wiki-based platforms to construct a ficticious reality in which he is of significant political importance and those involved in politics are conspiring against him and other citizens." and that political causes, or the rules of politics as usual, are only excuses justifying their "willingness to make nasty ad hominem remarks". Predictably, such a view is most common among targets of these tactics who often claim to find them "dishonest, counterproductive, confrontational and abusive". When examined, however, the degree of dishonesty, confrontation and abuse by opponents of trolls usually is just as bad. Trolls often claim that the priveleged liars they oppose are abusing institutional or public trust, and that by exposing them, they merely apply freedom of the press. In general, trolls do not claim they have a right to lie.

Hubley has many times acknowledged this issue, and claims that he simply operates to the limit of what should be allowed, and that groups that fail to recognize this and exclude him for raising the truth are not politically effective, and eventually come to some well-deserved doom. He has for instance predicted the decline of the Green Party of Canada.

not hard to verify

Unlike most trolls, it isn't hard to attribute a view Hubley actually holds. He participates in some 20 yahoogroups and a few large public wikis under his own name, so his positions are well known and associated with himself.

Though reputedly hundreds or maybe thousands of others under pseudonyms or in support of secret factions he controls have apparently spread some materials he wrote, it is unreasonable to imagine that he controls all the people who merely agree with him, or to claim that everything attributed to him, is his.